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do what's in mitch mcconnell's best interest. he's made this calculation that adhering to a fairly hard line is going to guarantee he doesn't face a primary. the disingenuous thing about the republican argument right now, this whole thing about rates is unfortunate because you cannot do what they say they want to do, which is deal with the tax code and deductions, without impacting the middle class. because any time you touch a deduction, whether it's home mortgage deduction or even capital gains or whatever, you're talking about middle classes being impacted along with wealthier americans. so, this is all phoney. we've got to do something with the rates. the president is absolutely right to hold to his line. the american people are on board. and i think eventually the republicans will fall in line. >> i know that you head up the bourbon caucus, a most excellent caucus, if everyone there was one. you invited republican massy ey with you. could you not invite mcconnell and introduce him to working with as opposed to this president
do what's in mitch mcconnell's best interest. he's made this calculation that adhering to a fairly hard line is going to guarantee he doesn't face a primary. the disingenuous thing about the republican argument right now, this whole thing about rates is unfortunate because you cannot do what they say they want to do, which is deal with the tax code and deductions, without impacting the middle class. because any time you touch a deduction, whether it's home mortgage deduction or even capital...
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>> john mccain and myself we will introduce a resolution asking the majority leader, mitch mcconnell to do a select committee. why do you need one? the state department is under the foreign operations committee foreign relations committee oversight. department of defense is under armed service. if you have three different committees interviewing people separately we won't know what one group will significant sailing. so we should form a committee over department of defense, department of the state and the c.i.a. and ask questions and have a professional approach to this. i think congress would be making a huge mistake, let three committees go off by themselves and not coordinate. >> greta: senator harry reid, his view on a select committee is what? >> i don't know. i don't believe you can get to the truth in a professional way. when you talk to the c.i.a., also you want to talk to the defense, why were these people left hanging for eight hours. the c.i.a., why did you not get ready for an attack people were telling you. state department, god knows how many times did you fail the peop
>> john mccain and myself we will introduce a resolution asking the majority leader, mitch mcconnell to do a select committee. why do you need one? the state department is under the foreign operations committee foreign relations committee oversight. department of defense is under armed service. if you have three different committees interviewing people separately we won't know what one group will significant sailing. so we should form a committee over department of defense, department of...
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yeah, but it's -- if it's demint versus mitch mcconnell, mitch mcconnell wins. >> and he's going to win this thing. the question is how do they manage -- >> what do you do? >> -- republican leaders have not figured out how to manage the base. that's a fact. >> the whole campaign on the president level, they get pushed to the right. >> thatd don't know how to manage. >> because of the conservative bubble. on the down ballot level they nominate candidates who come out of that bubble and a policy or -- >> or they did mainstream candidates like george allen who feels the need to placate -- >> of course. and on policy. and on policy, there's a roadblock from moving towards stances on issues like immigration because you're going to get blowback from the base. but keep in mind what happened yesterday township it wasn't just john boehner who moved on immigration. sean hannity said he had evolved on the immigration issue. election type consequences. >> this is the problem i feel like. that your natural tendency in politics is to say, we'll let our voters work their will. that's always there. we'
yeah, but it's -- if it's demint versus mitch mcconnell, mitch mcconnell wins. >> and he's going to win this thing. the question is how do they manage -- >> what do you do? >> -- republican leaders have not figured out how to manage the base. that's a fact. >> the whole campaign on the president level, they get pushed to the right. >> thatd don't know how to manage. >> because of the conservative bubble. on the down ballot level they nominate candidates who...
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. >> you always ask that question, except to mitch mcconnell. >> you, mr. foyer and all of you it is needed for younger leadership. >> so you are suggesting everybody step aside? >> no, the need are for younger leadership. >> i think you will see, and let's for a moment honor it as a legitimate question, although it is quite offensive , but you don't realize it i guess. >> anyway, this went on for another three hours before she finally answered no. i don't even remember what the question was. russert defended the question saying while pelosi laughed off fie cues, many say it hurts the caucus that all three leaders are 70 plus. the longer the top three stay the longer it takes to infuse with mu glued like the gop -- new blood like the gop did. as a 74-year-old woman, what is your take on this? >> i think it was an inappropriate question. i don't think any woman wants to talk about her age, nor do men really for that matter. young or old. especially in a position of power and leadership and the head of a major political party. so i think his question was vali
. >> you always ask that question, except to mitch mcconnell. >> you, mr. foyer and all of you it is needed for younger leadership. >> so you are suggesting everybody step aside? >> no, the need are for younger leadership. >> i think you will see, and let's for a moment honor it as a legitimate question, although it is quite offensive , but you don't realize it i guess. >> anyway, this went on for another three hours before she finally answered no. i don't...
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now, senate republic leader mitch mcconnell says raises taxes on those businesses would cost 700,000 jobs. the president says we would simply return to the tax rates of the clinton years in which the economy created almost 8 times as many jobs as the administration of george w. bush. president will make his case to the public tomorrow and civic leaders on friday which is when these talks with congressional leaders come in. >> shepard: wendell goler on the north lawn. seven weeks isn't really seven weeks when you are talking about congress. lawmakers just got back to work today. then they are off next week for thanksgiving. then they will take a break for christmas and then time is up. mike emanuel is on capitol hill. one of the lawmakers back at work today congressman paul ryan. the republic vice presidential nominee. >> that's right, shep. paul ryan is expected to have a lot of clout after the elections. obviously a more recognizable name around the country. and he will continue on as the house budget chairman. ryan did not say a whole lot to reporters today. he seemed to be trying
now, senate republic leader mitch mcconnell says raises taxes on those businesses would cost 700,000 jobs. the president says we would simply return to the tax rates of the clinton years in which the economy created almost 8 times as many jobs as the administration of george w. bush. president will make his case to the public tomorrow and civic leaders on friday which is when these talks with congressional leaders come in. >> shepard: wendell goler on the north lawn. seven weeks isn't...
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. >> you have always asked that question, except to mitch mcconnell. >> you are going to stay on and prohibit a younger leadership. >> you are suggesting that everybody step aside? >> no, i am simply saying that the younger leadership will be delayed. >> i think what you will see -- and let's for a moment honor that this is a legitimate question, although it's quite offensive, but you don't realize it, i guess. >> sean: la-ha-ha. what's with the giggles and the boos and the hisses. >> i love luke russert. i met luke. he's a really conscientious person. he said colleagues privately say. ng to him.rting what they are >> that's wrong with that. >> sean. >> they respond lie laughing-- >>> giggles. >> that's a response when have you no other response. >> sean: like joe biden -- what was that? >> i don't have a problem with anything that happened there. the one thing that i love about that clip is that there is diversity in that picture. that's what i noticed. >> oh. >> that's what i noticed. there is diversity in that picture. >> sean: i trust luke russet that has reports that people are
. >> you have always asked that question, except to mitch mcconnell. >> you are going to stay on and prohibit a younger leadership. >> you are suggesting that everybody step aside? >> no, i am simply saying that the younger leadership will be delayed. >> i think what you will see -- and let's for a moment honor that this is a legitimate question, although it's quite offensive, but you don't realize it, i guess. >> sean: la-ha-ha. what's with the giggles and...
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the key here is mitch mcconnell in the senate. he's up for re-election in 2014. he is the key. both for president obama and for the house majority leader boehner. mitch mcconnell at least in public he tendses to look at president obama like a hitchhiker with pets or something. he doesn't want anything to do with him. if he continues to hold it, his first statement election night after president obama won, to say the least not very generous. >> not quite bipartisan. >> if mcconnell holds to that line, then big trouble for the obama agenda and for what boehner and others hoped to accomplish and big trouble for the country. some things you feel congress is so out of touch, i don't know how they could be after this election but, you know, there's out of date as these belt and slacks men used to wear. >> the metaphors are beautiful. >> belts and slacks. >> i love it. >> but i actually think there is a lot of truth there, which is they have the lowest approval rating historically. the obstructionism i don't think you can play it again for another two years. >> i think this is one whe
the key here is mitch mcconnell in the senate. he's up for re-election in 2014. he is the key. both for president obama and for the house majority leader boehner. mitch mcconnell at least in public he tendses to look at president obama like a hitchhiker with pets or something. he doesn't want anything to do with him. if he continues to hold it, his first statement election night after president obama won, to say the least not very generous. >> not quite bipartisan. >> if mcconnell...
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i think boehner and mitch mcconnell will say no increase in tax rate, 35% is it. i think the president will concede on that point. i think bainer and mcconnell will then accept the idea of cutting culling or capping the deductions each individual and the higher brackets can take, set a top limit on the deductions they can take and that will increase the revenue flow into the federal government. at the same time, the two congressmen, republicans, preserve the rates argument. they won't make all of their folks happy, but i think that's the deal in the works. >> greta: a couple of problems. number 1 is, the fact that -- today at least, i am always stunned when -- with the exception of senator tom coburn, i barely hear anyone talking about the tremendous amount of waste and fraud. we put up the example of the guy in the bathtub with the wine glass, which is a tiny, tiny bit, but it's representative of the mind-set here. no waste and frawpd fraud. they won't raise the tax rates, but when you do put caps on deductions, you are raising the effective rate. i mean, i guess
i think boehner and mitch mcconnell will say no increase in tax rate, 35% is it. i think the president will concede on that point. i think bainer and mcconnell will then accept the idea of cutting culling or capping the deductions each individual and the higher brackets can take, set a top limit on the deductions they can take and that will increase the revenue flow into the federal government. at the same time, the two congressmen, republicans, preserve the rates argument. they won't make all...
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mitch mcconnell says higher taxes won't solve that problem. >> this is partisan politics. this is not an option. raising tax rates would destroy 700,000 jobs >> reporter: on this day, the president met with labor and progressive leaders since the day after his re-election that he opposed cuts to medicare and social security benefits. >> the president is committed to making sure that the middle class and the workers are paying the tax for parties we didn't get to. >> reigning in cost of medicare and medicaid is essential to controlling the deficit. mr. obama offered $34 billion a year in savings. republicans don't think it's enough. and they're demanding to be part of the solution. >> the venters also -- the voters also have republican controlled house and closely divided senate. in a government of three equal branchs, that is hardly irrelevant. >> at the white house, despite the seeming impasse over the bush tax cut, carney insists there is flexibility dealing with the deficit. >> i don't think the president is in a position of boxing ourselves in, or boxing others out. he
mitch mcconnell says higher taxes won't solve that problem. >> this is partisan politics. this is not an option. raising tax rates would destroy 700,000 jobs >> reporter: on this day, the president met with labor and progressive leaders since the day after his re-election that he opposed cuts to medicare and social security benefits. >> the president is committed to making sure that the middle class and the workers are paying the tax for parties we didn't get to. >>...
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so mitch mcconnell is the missing piece of the puzzle here. he's the person the president has had the least success in dealing with. they have no personal relationship whatwhatsoever, th president and john boehner played golf once or twice. boehner as a person is of a more amenable guy. the white house wants a deal, and the reason they want a deal is because of the economy. if we get tangled up here in d.c. and go over the cliff or down the gradual slope, it's not -- it's not going to be good for the economy. there are people waiting to invest. there's a world watching. everybody agrees that if a deal can be cut, economies around the world, not just in america, are going to benefit. >> yeah. i think the consequences aren't immediate if we get to january 1st, but i'll get into that later. i have a monologue -- >> psychologically they're immediate. >> let me ask you about within the democratic party, then. if the white house's priority is to get a deal, and the bottom line for house republicans is no rate hikes, if the white house were pursue th
so mitch mcconnell is the missing piece of the puzzle here. he's the person the president has had the least success in dealing with. they have no personal relationship whatwhatsoever, th president and john boehner played golf once or twice. boehner as a person is of a more amenable guy. the white house wants a deal, and the reason they want a deal is because of the economy. if we get tangled up here in d.c. and go over the cliff or down the gradual slope, it's not -- it's not going to be good...
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oh, have you always asked that question, except to mitch mcconnell. [applause] >> greta: so what do you think of this q&a gone wild? are you on team pelosi or team russert? russert? back in two. [ male announcer ] chosing a windows 8 device with he from your friend. i'm thinking about upgrading... finally! jonathan was fine when you were in your 20s, but he's not right for you. good-bye jonathan and his creepy little girl hands. i meant... [ male announcer ] or choosing a windows 8 device with help from the experts at staples. another way staples and hp make it easier to upgrade. make your windows 8 experience even better with hp. and this week, get $200 off the hp envy dv6 notebook. staples. that was easy. itch the president's expected to meet request victims, local officials and first responders in some of the worst affected neighborhoods from the october 30 storm that killed 43 people in the city and damaged or destroyed hundreds of homes. may be utility companies have been criticized for their slow responses, restoring power, but now say it's 99%
oh, have you always asked that question, except to mitch mcconnell. [applause] >> greta: so what do you think of this q&a gone wild? are you on team pelosi or team russert? russert? back in two. [ male announcer ] chosing a windows 8 device with he from your friend. i'm thinking about upgrading... finally! jonathan was fine when you were in your 20s, but he's not right for you. good-bye jonathan and his creepy little girl hands. i meant... [ male announcer ] or choosing a windows 8...
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when you have john boehner and mitch mcconnell and mitt romney talking about immigration, immigration reform, it doesn't hold the water, the credibility when marco rubio or ted cruz or martinez does it, who has a better background and basis for making comments on it. that is why it -- >> bob: it's a question of policy. are they going to change policy? >> eric: they are the ones to do it. if you're romney with immigration reform. >> dana: in 1986, they passed the bill, the immigration bill because of the amnesty bill in 1986, republicans are the ones that passed that. ronald reagan signed it. republicans lost seats in 1988. i don't know if that is the right rabbit to chase. >> bob: they increased percentage among hispanics. >> andrea: i still say no, matter what, amnesty, free healthcare, student loans. give, give, give. g.o.p., no quick fix and it doesn't see a harvard professor to see where it's going. coming up, the main stream media may not be totally to blame for the republican losses this week but they weren't fair and balanceed in the reporting. what should be done about it? we'
when you have john boehner and mitch mcconnell and mitt romney talking about immigration, immigration reform, it doesn't hold the water, the credibility when marco rubio or ted cruz or martinez does it, who has a better background and basis for making comments on it. that is why it -- >> bob: it's a question of policy. are they going to change policy? >> eric: they are the ones to do it. if you're romney with immigration reform. >> dana: in 1986, they passed the bill, the...
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but senate minority leader mitch mcconnell says he's ready to reach across the aisle. >> we are ready to find common ground on revenue. but we are also not about to further weaken the economy by raising tax rates and hurting jobs. bill: in 30 minutes, what would steve forbes do? martha: that's a question i always ask myself. in this situation, what would steve forbes do? pill * these are big, big issues and negotiations will go late into the night. we'll get steve's take coming up on that. martha: an investigation is underway after a small plane carrying three pilots crashed into a neighborhood. what witnesses heard and saw there. bill: there were serious questions about eric holder and the petraeus affair. why didn't he tell the white house any sooner? >> lawmakers want to know in terms of when petraeus found out. he was under investigation. has it had any impact on the comments he made to senators about benghazi and what he knew? we just learned general petraeus says he does want to testify about benghazi. more in a moment. >> you can't get to the bottom of benghazi without him test
but senate minority leader mitch mcconnell says he's ready to reach across the aisle. >> we are ready to find common ground on revenue. but we are also not about to further weaken the economy by raising tax rates and hurting jobs. bill: in 30 minutes, what would steve forbes do? martha: that's a question i always ask myself. in this situation, what would steve forbes do? pill * these are big, big issues and negotiations will go late into the night. we'll get steve's take coming up on...
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mitch mcconnell. republicans, you know what they got? a lot of soul searching to do. in fact, former mississippi governor, haley barbour said the gop needs to look deep into their souls. >> we've got to give our political organizational activity, you know, a very serious proctology exam. i think that's the only -- we need to look everywhere is my point. >> that would be up where? most people see a party which is still leaving minority voters by the the wayside. the images of long lines on election day are still burned into the voters' minds. these lines were engineered by who? republicans. trying to suppress voters in democratic areas. in florida, republican lawmakers pack the ballot with unnecessary measures to keep voters in the line for as long as they possibly could so they wouldn't do what? vote. scott walker's colleague in wisconsin said mitt romney would have absolutely won the state of wisconsin if they had just had some voter i.d. laws. right? president obama won wisconsin with more than 205,000 votes. that's a lot of people to suppress in order to make a sur
mitch mcconnell. republicans, you know what they got? a lot of soul searching to do. in fact, former mississippi governor, haley barbour said the gop needs to look deep into their souls. >> we've got to give our political organizational activity, you know, a very serious proctology exam. i think that's the only -- we need to look everywhere is my point. >> that would be up where? most people see a party which is still leaving minority voters by the the wayside. the images of long...
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john boehner, mitch mcconnell saying they want the bush tax cuts for everyone. joe, will they have to bend on that? isn't that really the issue? will they bend on the republican side? >> the republicans are going to have to bend. we have to get this done. we've only got 46 days before the -- before we would fall off this fiscal cliff and to fall off the cliff would mean 3.9% hit for gdp next year. we can't afford that because that would potentially throw us into another recession. we want to avoid that at all costs. the big issue i think for most people would be taxes. most people -- and governor rendell said, well, it's not just a matter of tax increases on the wealthiest americans but it's a host of spending challenges that we face across the board that would impact millions of people and certainly impact us in a huge way. i think republicans have to bend. republicans are going to be looking at of course cuts in spending and cuts in entitlements as well as the possibility of new revenue and i think they're very open to this. i think some republicans will push
john boehner, mitch mcconnell saying they want the bush tax cuts for everyone. joe, will they have to bend on that? isn't that really the issue? will they bend on the republican side? >> the republicans are going to have to bend. we have to get this done. we've only got 46 days before the -- before we would fall off this fiscal cliff and to fall off the cliff would mean 3.9% hit for gdp next year. we can't afford that because that would potentially throw us into another recession. we want...
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mcconnell then she calmly graciously explained not just to the reporter but to all those who may not understand that often women don't accrue the necessary seniority for traditional advancement because they're penalized when they decide to spend time raising their families. nancy pelosi was elected to congress at age 47, after she had raised her family. many of her male counterparts were elected in their 30s presumably while their wives were raising their families. of course they have more seniority at each calendar year in their lives. now she explains she did not regret her choices but it's one reason why women don't get as many plum assignments because they don't have the seniority. so in staying on nancy pelosi is really looking out for those young women who are coming up. she's help to go redefine seniority and status on her terms. i am grateful and relieved to know it. third, really importantly there is no woman who is more vilified by the right than nancy pelosi. republicans use nancy pelosi as the whipping girl relentlessly, repeatedly incessantly. being the object of that mu
mcconnell then she calmly graciously explained not just to the reporter but to all those who may not understand that often women don't accrue the necessary seniority for traditional advancement because they're penalized when they decide to spend time raising their families. nancy pelosi was elected to congress at age 47, after she had raised her family. many of her male counterparts were elected in their 30s presumably while their wives were raising their families. of course they have more...
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>> i guess -- you always ask that question, except to mitch mcconnell. >> excuse me, you, mr. hoyer, mr. clyburn, you're all over 70. is it going to prohibit younger leadership from moving forward. >> so you're suggesting that everybody step aside? >> i'm simply saying, does this -- >> i think that what you will see, and let's, for a moment, honor it as a legitimate question. although it's quite offensive. but you don't realize that, i guess. the fact is, the fact is, is that everything that i have done in my almost decade of leadership is to elect younger and newer people to the congress. in my own personal experience, it was very important for me to elect young women. i came to congress when my youngest child, alexandra, was a senior in high school, practically on her way to college. i knew that my male colleagues had come when they were 30. they had a jump on me, because they didn't have to -- i did what i wanted to do. i was blessed to have that opportunity, to sequentially raise my family and then come to congress. but i wanted women to be here in greater numbers at an ea
>> i guess -- you always ask that question, except to mitch mcconnell. >> excuse me, you, mr. hoyer, mr. clyburn, you're all over 70. is it going to prohibit younger leadership from moving forward. >> so you're suggesting that everybody step aside? >> i'm simply saying, does this -- >> i think that what you will see, and let's, for a moment, honor it as a legitimate question. although it's quite offensive. but you don't realize that, i guess. the fact is, the fact...
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. >> congresswoman, as we see with nancy pelosi willing to stay put, mitch mcconnell staying put. harry reid and john boehner staying put. the president back in, what people would expect musical chairs. none will happen. it's the same people in the same positions and yesterday senate majority leader mitch mcconnell took to the floor and said they won't compromise. we had that interview with paul ryan with abc's jonathan karl saying it's not a mandate. they have a divided government so they'll continue with back and forth of head butting and the taxes should not be raised on wealthiest americans. are we headed just for the same old same old once again? >> i don't think so. first of all we are very pleased about nancy pelosi remaining as leader. she's done an extraordinary job in helping to increase our numbers here on the democratic side, in raising the money that was necessary for us to strengthen our hand here in the house and so she has done such a good job that we urged her to please stay on and that experience really does count. let me just say this, there is some posturing go
. >> congresswoman, as we see with nancy pelosi willing to stay put, mitch mcconnell staying put. harry reid and john boehner staying put. the president back in, what people would expect musical chairs. none will happen. it's the same people in the same positions and yesterday senate majority leader mitch mcconnell took to the floor and said they won't compromise. we had that interview with paul ryan with abc's jonathan karl saying it's not a mandate. they have a divided government so...
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mcconnell. so the goal is to hammer out a deal or to begin the framework of hammering out a deal before series of automatic spending cuts and tax increases kick in the first of the year. some really do fear that could trigger yet another recession which nobody wants to see in this country. so that's how we welcome you to a brand new hour of "america's newsroom." happy friday, everybody, i'm martha maccallum. bill: how are you feeling? martha: great. bill: long week. martha: busy week. bill: i'm bill hemmer. good morning again. we have six weeks to go before you get a deal. one of the main sticking points remains whether other not you extend the current tax rates for all americans or you go for major tax reform that would help eliminate some of the current tax writeoffs. this is the speaker on the floor of the house. >> we're going to further weakening the economy by raising tax rates and hurting jobs. look, this shouldn't be that difficult. >> let us go to the table of good faith that we want so
mcconnell. so the goal is to hammer out a deal or to begin the framework of hammering out a deal before series of automatic spending cuts and tax increases kick in the first of the year. some really do fear that could trigger yet another recession which nobody wants to see in this country. so that's how we welcome you to a brand new hour of "america's newsroom." happy friday, everybody, i'm martha maccallum. bill: how are you feeling? martha: great. bill: long week. martha: busy week....
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and then the house minority leader or rather the minority leader mitch mcconnell also suggesting that this was a constructive meeting and that we are prepared to put revenue on the table. they just emerged from the meeting. looked like they were going right back in. maybe they were going to have lunch. i don't know. they sure deserve it if they're able to come to rhetoric like that any any case. take to you break for a moment and hopefully i can scramble up wolf blitzer. given the fact we're so busy with breaking news he is probably busy as well. [ knock on door ] cool. you found it. wow. nice place. yeah. [ chuckles ] the family thinks i'm out shipping these. smooth move. you used priority mail flat rate boxes. if it fits, it ships for a low, flat rate. paid for postage online and arranged a free pickup. and i'm gonna track them online, too. nice. between those boxes and this place, i'm totally staying sane this year. do i smell snickerdoodles? maybe. [ timer dings ] got to go. priority mail flat rate boxes. online pricing starts at $5.15. only from the postal service. >>> a thundero
and then the house minority leader or rather the minority leader mitch mcconnell also suggesting that this was a constructive meeting and that we are prepared to put revenue on the table. they just emerged from the meeting. looked like they were going right back in. maybe they were going to have lunch. i don't know. they sure deserve it if they're able to come to rhetoric like that any any case. take to you break for a moment and hopefully i can scramble up wolf blitzer. given the fact we're so...